Tonight, I dug deep. The evidence is clear...
Actually, what happened was this...
About midway through the second 10 minutes at highest power - about an hour or so in - I noticed some red droplets hitting my sweat-guard. My son was in the room playing around, and I told him to go get a mirror. I was starting to panic. Red droplets? I checked my nose... nothing. I checked my forehead... nothing.
Then it dawned on me.
I was wearing a red bandanna, and though I've had the thing for years, I must have never washed it because it was "bleeding out" now that it was drenched with sweat.
*whew*
Funny thing is that my first thought wasn't to stop what I was doing, but to ask an easily distracted 5 year old to get me a mirror.
About Me
- dvicci
- I’m a cycling fanatic in the information technology and security field with a bachelors in Social Welfare and a some training in the visual arts. I’m a son, a brother, a husband, and a father. I am good with my hands, still consider myself an artist, and could stand to lose a few pounds.
Sunday, October 7, 2018
Monday, October 1, 2018
Clavicle Break Week 14 (Sep 23, 2018 - Sep 28, 2018)
Pain Level: 2
Discomfort: 2
Mobility: 9
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Back on the weight loss wagon.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but being careful again.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements. Exogen device twice a day.
This will be the last of the weekly posts. I'll update as needed from here.
I'm discouraged and frustrated by the apparent lack of healing.
Maybe it's that, or maybe something physical has happened, but it's hurt more this week than it has in over a month.
I'll keep going with the Exogen device, but I'm preparing myself for what feels like the inevitability of surgery.
Surgery I wanted the very day it happened, that if I'd gotten, I wouldn't be here writing this today.
<-- Week Thirteen | Series |
Discomfort: 2
Mobility: 9
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Back on the weight loss wagon.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but being careful again.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements. Exogen device twice a day.
This will be the last of the weekly posts. I'll update as needed from here.
I'm discouraged and frustrated by the apparent lack of healing.
Maybe it's that, or maybe something physical has happened, but it's hurt more this week than it has in over a month.
I'll keep going with the Exogen device, but I'm preparing myself for what feels like the inevitability of surgery.
Surgery I wanted the very day it happened, that if I'd gotten, I wouldn't be here writing this today.
<-- Week Thirteen | Series |
Monday, September 24, 2018
Music to my Bones
Picked this up today. It's an ultrasonic bone growth stimulation device.
Here's to hoping it lives up to the hype...
Saturday, September 22, 2018
Clavicle Break Week 13 (Sep 15, 2018 - Sep 22, 2018)
Pain Level: 1
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 10
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Back on the weight loss wagon.
Mobility: Getting around normally.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
I went to get my 12-13 week X-Rays done on Wednesday, the 19th. It wasn't really what I was hoping. Based on the x-rays alone, there's been no healing at all. Those took on 9/19 look exactly like those taken 6 weeks ago.
The doc expected more as well, so the plan now is to use an ultrasonic bone growth stimulation device for the next 6 weeks and evaluate another set of X-Rays. After that, if there's still no visible bridge bone formed, we'll talk other options.
Disappointed.
My injured shoulder feels like it's in good shape. There's still some aching, but nothing even remotely debilitating.
100% normal in typical day to day activities. I'm not pushing it with strength training or heavy weights, but simply getting through the day feels unimpeded.
Same as before - I'm running through the activities with 5lb weights. I've not been following the schedule as religiously as I should, but I'm not missing many days either. I'm really looking forward to my X-Rays, after which I'm hoping I can start on some more gainful strength training.
I took the week off training last week. Work was relatively stressful, and I just felt like I needed a few days off.
However, On Sunday I actually got out on an outdoor ride for the first time since the accident. It was a very low key ride around the neighborhood with my 5 year old son on my very comfortable MTB (Trek Stache 9.6), but it was enough to tell me that my shoulder felt great.
That ride was enough to inspire the confidence necessary to take a Ramp Test to see how much fitness I'd lost. Not as much as I'd thought I would, pleasantly enough!
That said, work has continued to be pretty stressful, and so my motivation hasn't been that great this week either. Not much by way of training. I'm building up my mental fortitude to start again next week on Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume I plan in TrainerRoad.
No changes. Still waiting anxiously for next Spring...
<-- Week Twelve | Series | Week Fourteen -- >
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 10
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Back on the weight loss wagon.
Mobility: Getting around normally.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Doctor Update
I went to get my 12-13 week X-Rays done on Wednesday, the 19th. It wasn't really what I was hoping. Based on the x-rays alone, there's been no healing at all. Those took on 9/19 look exactly like those taken 6 weeks ago.
The doc expected more as well, so the plan now is to use an ultrasonic bone growth stimulation device for the next 6 weeks and evaluate another set of X-Rays. After that, if there's still no visible bridge bone formed, we'll talk other options.
Disappointed.
Pain and Discomfort
My injured shoulder feels like it's in good shape. There's still some aching, but nothing even remotely debilitating.
Mobility
100% normal in typical day to day activities. I'm not pushing it with strength training or heavy weights, but simply getting through the day feels unimpeded.
Physical Therapy
Same as before - I'm running through the activities with 5lb weights. I've not been following the schedule as religiously as I should, but I'm not missing many days either. I'm really looking forward to my X-Rays, after which I'm hoping I can start on some more gainful strength training.
Cycling Training
I took the week off training last week. Work was relatively stressful, and I just felt like I needed a few days off.
However, On Sunday I actually got out on an outdoor ride for the first time since the accident. It was a very low key ride around the neighborhood with my 5 year old son on my very comfortable MTB (Trek Stache 9.6), but it was enough to tell me that my shoulder felt great.
That ride was enough to inspire the confidence necessary to take a Ramp Test to see how much fitness I'd lost. Not as much as I'd thought I would, pleasantly enough!
That said, work has continued to be pretty stressful, and so my motivation hasn't been that great this week either. Not much by way of training. I'm building up my mental fortitude to start again next week on Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume I plan in TrainerRoad.
Equipment
No changes. Still waiting anxiously for next Spring...
<-- Week Twelve | Series | Week Fourteen -- >
Saturday, September 15, 2018
Clavicle Break Week 12 (Sep 8, 2018 - Sep 14, 2018)
Pain Level: 1
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 10
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Ate a lot this week. Gained some pounds.
Mobility: Getting around normally. Still being careful, but not feeling nervous about anything.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
At an all time low since my collision with the ground. I'm still aware that there's an injury, but it's more of an itch, or a very minor ache, than actual pain. The only thing that inches out of "Itch Territory" are the non-shoulder areas, i.e., my ribs and something somewhere around my left scapula. Other than that, I'm feeling really good.
100% normal in typical day to day activities. I'm not pushing it with strength training or heavy weights, but simply getting through the day feels unimpeded.
Same as before - I'm running through the activities with 5lbs weights. I've not been following the schedule as religiously as I should, but I'm not missing many days either. I'm really looking forward to my X-Rays, after which I'm hoping I can start on some more gainful strength training.
I took the week off training last week. Work was relatively stressful, and I just felt like I needed a few days off.
However, On Sunday I actually got out on an outdoor ride for the first time since the accident. It was a very low key ride around the neighborhood with my 5 year old son on my very comfortable MTB (Trek Stache 9.6), but it was enough to tell me that my shoulder felt great.
That ride was enough to inspire the confidence necessary to take a Ramp Test to see how much fitness I'd lost. Not as much as I'd thought I would, pleasantly enough!
No changes. Still waiting anxiously for next Spring...
<-- Week Eleven | Series | Week Thirteen -- >
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 10
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping normally with no positional issues.
Nutrition: Supplements geared towards bone regrowth. Ate a lot this week. Gained some pounds.
Mobility: Getting around normally. Still being careful, but not feeling nervous about anything.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Pain and Discomfort
At an all time low since my collision with the ground. I'm still aware that there's an injury, but it's more of an itch, or a very minor ache, than actual pain. The only thing that inches out of "Itch Territory" are the non-shoulder areas, i.e., my ribs and something somewhere around my left scapula. Other than that, I'm feeling really good.
Mobility
100% normal in typical day to day activities. I'm not pushing it with strength training or heavy weights, but simply getting through the day feels unimpeded.
Physical Therapy
Same as before - I'm running through the activities with 5lbs weights. I've not been following the schedule as religiously as I should, but I'm not missing many days either. I'm really looking forward to my X-Rays, after which I'm hoping I can start on some more gainful strength training.
Cycling Training
I took the week off training last week. Work was relatively stressful, and I just felt like I needed a few days off.
However, On Sunday I actually got out on an outdoor ride for the first time since the accident. It was a very low key ride around the neighborhood with my 5 year old son on my very comfortable MTB (Trek Stache 9.6), but it was enough to tell me that my shoulder felt great.
That ride was enough to inspire the confidence necessary to take a Ramp Test to see how much fitness I'd lost. Not as much as I'd thought I would, pleasantly enough!
Equipment
No changes. Still waiting anxiously for next Spring...
<-- Week Eleven | Series | Week Thirteen -- >
Monday, September 10, 2018
Ramp Test
I jumped the gun tonight and took a Ramp Test to see how far my FTP had dropped. When I hit the deck on 6/23, I was officially at 232, but had probably climbed to about 240 with the training I'd done since that number was established.
With 12 weeks away from serious training efforts, I fully expected to drop below 200. I've been spinning for a few weeks now, but it was all just spinning - no hard efforts. Well, tonight I tested, and had only dropped to 224. An official drop of only about 3.5%, and an unofficial drop of only 6.66%.
In spite of 13 weeks away from real training, I'm starting my next season higher than I started my last. I can live with that.
How to take a Ramp Test.
With 12 weeks away from serious training efforts, I fully expected to drop below 200. I've been spinning for a few weeks now, but it was all just spinning - no hard efforts. Well, tonight I tested, and had only dropped to 224. An official drop of only about 3.5%, and an unofficial drop of only 6.66%.
In spite of 13 weeks away from real training, I'm starting my next season higher than I started my last. I can live with that.
How to take a Ramp Test.
Saturday, September 8, 2018
Clavicle Break Week 11 (Sep 1, 2018 - Sep 7, 2018)
Pain Level: 1-6
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 9
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping on my left side becoming possible.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Saturday was rough. I'm not going to lie. But it was rough only for a few minutes. We took my 5 year old son to Field Station: Dinosaurs (Daddy liked it a lot more than he did - lots to see, but not much to do). We started the visit with a run through their 18 hole mini-golf course, and ended it with a couple of hours walking through the park and looking at everything. It was a lot of walking, and it was very hot. By the time we got to the end, my shoulder was loudly complaining, almost to the point of screaming. Then, I crossed my arms just right (I guess) and it settled right down.
After that, for the rest of the week, there was some occasional "stickiness" and what felt like bursitis pain (I already have that in my other shoulder from a similar, though much slower crash in college), but it was never anything I'd rate more than annoying.
I am very nearly normal at this point. There is still some light "stickiness" and discomfort if I've not moved my shoulder in the last hour or so, and the shoulder is not entirely "invisible" yet, but overall, mobility is very high and pain-free.
I continued with the 5lbs weights. I didn't hit every day, because of our weekend out of town, but I don't think it really affected me much. When I got back into it, it was as if I'd never stopped.
I kinda took this week off. Work got especially crazy this week, and after the stress of the days, I just didn't have much left for anything but TV time with the wife and a glass of wine.
Nothing new on the equipment front. I have everything I need, and what I want won't be out until next year. These bottle cages look pretty cool, though, and might make a good addition to the new bike when it arrives...
<-- Week Ten | Series | Week Twelve -- >
Discomfort: 1
Mobility: 9
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping on my left side becoming possible.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Pain and Discomfort
Saturday was rough. I'm not going to lie. But it was rough only for a few minutes. We took my 5 year old son to Field Station: Dinosaurs (Daddy liked it a lot more than he did - lots to see, but not much to do). We started the visit with a run through their 18 hole mini-golf course, and ended it with a couple of hours walking through the park and looking at everything. It was a lot of walking, and it was very hot. By the time we got to the end, my shoulder was loudly complaining, almost to the point of screaming. Then, I crossed my arms just right (I guess) and it settled right down.
After that, for the rest of the week, there was some occasional "stickiness" and what felt like bursitis pain (I already have that in my other shoulder from a similar, though much slower crash in college), but it was never anything I'd rate more than annoying.
Mobility
I am very nearly normal at this point. There is still some light "stickiness" and discomfort if I've not moved my shoulder in the last hour or so, and the shoulder is not entirely "invisible" yet, but overall, mobility is very high and pain-free.
Physical Therapy
I continued with the 5lbs weights. I didn't hit every day, because of our weekend out of town, but I don't think it really affected me much. When I got back into it, it was as if I'd never stopped.
Cycling Training
I kinda took this week off. Work got especially crazy this week, and after the stress of the days, I just didn't have much left for anything but TV time with the wife and a glass of wine.
Equipment
Nothing new on the equipment front. I have everything I need, and what I want won't be out until next year. These bottle cages look pretty cool, though, and might make a good addition to the new bike when it arrives...
<-- Week Ten | Series | Week Twelve -- >
Saturday, September 1, 2018
Clavicle Break: Week 10 (August 25, 2018 - August 31, 2018)
Pain Level: 1
Discomfort: 1
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping on my left side becoming possible.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful. Starting to use the left arm almost as much as the right.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Pain and discomfort continued to decline this week. Saturday was a little rough, because that was the day we took Dawson to Kill Creek Park for his first Triathlon (which he completely rocked, by the way - holy COW that boy has a competitive streak!). There was lots of walking and moving around, and it took its toll. Still, it wasn't too bad, considering how bad it was just a few weeks previous.
There continues to be minor pain in other areas around my chest. It's mainly on the left side (go figure). Under my arm about midway down it's sometimes sore when I breathe deeply. It also shows up under and around my left shoulder blade towards my spine. That's diminished somewhat if I can stretch and pop my back with the right twists (which do not aggravate my clavicle anymore). This could be simply post-event-trauma that's going to need time to work itself out, but if it persists until my X-ray appointment on 9/19, I'll ask about it.
I think it's worth noting is that, while the clavicle itself appears mostly fine, with only a hint of "stickiness" now and again, there is still some discomfort around the joint every now and again - on both ends of the bone, actually. Again, if that persists, I'll mention it, and maybe go for an MRI to see if there's anything there.
Most promising is that there have been multiple times this week when I've gotten up to do something, and only after I've finished what I wanted to do (go to the break room for more coffee, go talk with someone, etc.) did it occur to me that my collar bone hadn't occurred to me. There was no pain or weirdness to notice. That's a great thing!
I started adding a couple of additional weighted exercises into my physical therapy. I'm still sticking with 5lbs until the doc clears me, but I think it's safe to add some curls, and bent-over dumbell rows. I also ramped up my leg exercises with lunges, squats, and deadlifts. I started planning additional cycling specific strength training, in addition to the structured plan I'd already committed myself to.
I skipped Saturday and Sunday spins, but got back on the saddle Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Good rides, and productive.
I got a new saddle to replace the one that snapped during The Event. I went from a Fizik Aliante R1 Versus Evo Large, to a Fizik Arione R3 Versus Evo Large. The Arione is designed for someone with a little more flexibility than the Aliante was, and the R3 means it has their k:ium rails, rather than carbon. I used their saddle fit wizard to find this one, where before I'd been winging it. I went with the R3 k:ium rails because I just didn't feel like messing with the carbon rails this time around. It was an immediate comfortable fit.
<-- Week Nine | Series | Week Eleven -- >
Discomfort: 1
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed. Sleeping on my left side becoming possible.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful. Starting to use the left arm almost as much as the right.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises plus some additional strength related movements.
Pain and Discomfort
Pain and discomfort continued to decline this week. Saturday was a little rough, because that was the day we took Dawson to Kill Creek Park for his first Triathlon (which he completely rocked, by the way - holy COW that boy has a competitive streak!). There was lots of walking and moving around, and it took its toll. Still, it wasn't too bad, considering how bad it was just a few weeks previous.
There continues to be minor pain in other areas around my chest. It's mainly on the left side (go figure). Under my arm about midway down it's sometimes sore when I breathe deeply. It also shows up under and around my left shoulder blade towards my spine. That's diminished somewhat if I can stretch and pop my back with the right twists (which do not aggravate my clavicle anymore). This could be simply post-event-trauma that's going to need time to work itself out, but if it persists until my X-ray appointment on 9/19, I'll ask about it.
I think it's worth noting is that, while the clavicle itself appears mostly fine, with only a hint of "stickiness" now and again, there is still some discomfort around the joint every now and again - on both ends of the bone, actually. Again, if that persists, I'll mention it, and maybe go for an MRI to see if there's anything there.
Most promising is that there have been multiple times this week when I've gotten up to do something, and only after I've finished what I wanted to do (go to the break room for more coffee, go talk with someone, etc.) did it occur to me that my collar bone hadn't occurred to me. There was no pain or weirdness to notice. That's a great thing!
Physical Therapy
I started adding a couple of additional weighted exercises into my physical therapy. I'm still sticking with 5lbs until the doc clears me, but I think it's safe to add some curls, and bent-over dumbell rows. I also ramped up my leg exercises with lunges, squats, and deadlifts. I started planning additional cycling specific strength training, in addition to the structured plan I'd already committed myself to.
I skipped Saturday and Sunday spins, but got back on the saddle Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Good rides, and productive.
Equipment
I got a new saddle to replace the one that snapped during The Event. I went from a Fizik Aliante R1 Versus Evo Large, to a Fizik Arione R3 Versus Evo Large. The Arione is designed for someone with a little more flexibility than the Aliante was, and the R3 means it has their k:ium rails, rather than carbon. I used their saddle fit wizard to find this one, where before I'd been winging it. I went with the R3 k:ium rails because I just didn't feel like messing with the carbon rails this time around. It was an immediate comfortable fit.
<-- Week Nine | Series | Week Eleven -- >
Saturday, August 25, 2018
Clavicle Break: Week 9 (August 18, 2018 - August 24, 2018)
Pain Level: 1, occasional ibuprofen.
Discomfort: 1-4
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises.
I skipped my Saturday light intensity spin session - I just wasn't feeling it, and we had a late night with our 5 year old anyway. I did get up Sunday and rocked a 60 minute session after a careful night's sleep. As hoped, there was no pain Sunday morning after Saturday's soreness, though the collar bone still felt "sticky" as they say. I think that's reasonable evidence that how I sleep makes a huge difference.
The rest of the week saw my normal Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday sessions, each one going very well.
I have to admit, at the beginning of the week I was starting to worry about how well was healing. I would have expected the stickiness to dissipate more by this point. I started wondering if the regular daily movement I'm subjecting the shoulder to, including physical therapy, was getting in the way of hard fibrous material forming. So I did some additional and closer reading of what I could find online, and decided to relax a little. 8 weeks is too soon to start getting impatient with healing. I'd know more during my final follow-up X-Rays on 9/19... unless something happens to cause obvious re-injury, that is.
Towards the end of the week the pain and discomfort continued to slowly dwindle. It's hard to say it's getting better day to day, but the 2-3 week rolling average shows improvement. Maybe there's nothing to worry about, and things are going the way they should be.
More than my actual shoulder, it's the ribs and back I'm worried about. I can't tell if it's tight muscles, or something else. Either way, by the end of the day, laying down for the night is a notable relief. It's like there's something there that, if I were only to stretch it out just the right way, everything would snap back into place. I'll keep monitoring it and ask the PT about it if it continues.
Aside from that, as I'm looking forward I think I'm going to try to plan some strength training back into things as well. I'm not interested in taking my cycling to a level that would require me being emaciated except for the legs. Rather, I'm interested in being generally fit all around, but with an emphasis on cycling performance. Upper body mass, frowned upon by the more elite cyclists, not only won't phase me, but is actually (especially now) that much more attractive. I don't want to sacrifice my cycling fitness... I just want to add more body strength. That balancing act will be the tricky part.
<-- Week Eight | Series | Week Ten -- >
Discomfort: 1-4
Attire: Normal.
Sleeping: Bed.
Nutrition: Weight loss caloric intake, with supplements geared towards bone regrowth.
Mobility: Getting around normally, but still being careful.
Physical Therapy: 5lb range of motion exercises.
I skipped my Saturday light intensity spin session - I just wasn't feeling it, and we had a late night with our 5 year old anyway. I did get up Sunday and rocked a 60 minute session after a careful night's sleep. As hoped, there was no pain Sunday morning after Saturday's soreness, though the collar bone still felt "sticky" as they say. I think that's reasonable evidence that how I sleep makes a huge difference.
The rest of the week saw my normal Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday sessions, each one going very well.
I have to admit, at the beginning of the week I was starting to worry about how well was healing. I would have expected the stickiness to dissipate more by this point. I started wondering if the regular daily movement I'm subjecting the shoulder to, including physical therapy, was getting in the way of hard fibrous material forming. So I did some additional and closer reading of what I could find online, and decided to relax a little. 8 weeks is too soon to start getting impatient with healing. I'd know more during my final follow-up X-Rays on 9/19... unless something happens to cause obvious re-injury, that is.
Towards the end of the week the pain and discomfort continued to slowly dwindle. It's hard to say it's getting better day to day, but the 2-3 week rolling average shows improvement. Maybe there's nothing to worry about, and things are going the way they should be.
More than my actual shoulder, it's the ribs and back I'm worried about. I can't tell if it's tight muscles, or something else. Either way, by the end of the day, laying down for the night is a notable relief. It's like there's something there that, if I were only to stretch it out just the right way, everything would snap back into place. I'll keep monitoring it and ask the PT about it if it continues.
Aside from that, as I'm looking forward I think I'm going to try to plan some strength training back into things as well. I'm not interested in taking my cycling to a level that would require me being emaciated except for the legs. Rather, I'm interested in being generally fit all around, but with an emphasis on cycling performance. Upper body mass, frowned upon by the more elite cyclists, not only won't phase me, but is actually (especially now) that much more attractive. I don't want to sacrifice my cycling fitness... I just want to add more body strength. That balancing act will be the tricky part.
<-- Week Eight | Series | Week Ten -- >
Tuesday, August 21, 2018
Mommy, what's a "tour"?
Dawson: Mommy, what's a tour?
Jami: It's like a trip. Like a tour of a country, or a tour of a factory...
Dawson: Like the Tour de France?
Jami: Yes.
... beat.
Dawson. Those boys oughta be done by now, don't you think?
Dawson is 5.
Jami: It's like a trip. Like a tour of a country, or a tour of a factory...
Dawson: Like the Tour de France?
Jami: Yes.
... beat.
Dawson. Those boys oughta be done by now, don't you think?
Dawson is 5.
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